{"id":66102,"date":"2016-03-16T18:47:37","date_gmt":"2016-03-16T16:47:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.myza.co.za\/theres-a-new-wave-of-jazz-sweeping-south-africa-the-conversation\/"},"modified":"2016-03-16T18:47:37","modified_gmt":"2016-03-16T16:47:37","slug":"theres-a-new-wave-of-jazz-sweeping-south-africa-the-conversation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.myza.co.za\/press\/theres-a-new-wave-of-jazz-sweeping-south-africa-the-conversation\/","title":{"rendered":"There&#8217;s a new wave of jazz sweeping South Africa | The Conversation"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com\/files\/115147\/width496\/image-20160315-9272-1nzpoo5.jpg\" \/><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Carlo Mobelli on the bass<\/span> <span class=\"attribution\">Christo Doherty<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>One of South Africa\u2019s foremost jazz musicians, Carlo Mombelli, has just released his 12th studio album, \u201cI Press My Spine to the Ground\u201d. He is a bassist and composer who also teaches at the music school of the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg. His album features Kesivan Naidoo (drums), Mbuso Khoza (vocals) and Kyle Shepherd (piano). The Conversation Africa\u2019s arts and culture editor, Charles Leonard, spoke to him about the album, its cover and how to juggle being a musician with being an academic.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Where does the title for your new album come from?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I once worked in Paris with a composer called Jean-Louis Mechali \u2013 he is from Morocco originally. An Arab told him once that when there is a really dark sky he loves to watch the stars. In your darkest moments, when you\u2019re really feeling down, only then can you see all the bright stars in the heavens. I took that concept and wrote a poem about it, \u2018I Press My Spine to the Ground\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>So I wrote this piece of music based on that and I got broadcaster Brenda Sisane to recite it for me.<\/p>\n<p>I was affected by sound design when I first heard actress Sophia Loren talk in a movie \u2013 I love that woman! \u2013 and the music came on. When the music is there and this dialogue happens with the music, I\u2019ve been brought to tears many, many times just for the combination of the spoken word and this music\u2026!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why this specific band on your new album?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What I like about Kesivan is when you want wind and whispering, he gives you whispering. On this album he\u2019s painting. He\u2019s not playing ding-ding-ka-ding \u2013 he\u2019s painting! When we are playing a fixed rhythm he\u2019s painting.<\/p>\n<p>Here he\u2019s playing more horizontally, not vertically. Vertically is an up and down groove, horizontally \u2026 well, he\u2019s constantly stirring and mixing colours.<\/p>\n<p>And, of course, Mbuso. He\u2019s got no music education in the formal way. He\u2019s got lots of music education but he learnt his music growing up on the mountains of KwaZulu-Natal herding cattle \u2013 giving a song to each cow, listening to the Zionists (members of the South African Zion Christian Church), listening to the Shembe\u2019s songs. He grew up inside music\u2026<\/p>\n<p>I give Mbuso an idea of what the song is about. So there\u2019s a song called \u201cPicasso\u2019s Dove\u201d \u2013 it is a song about peace. So Mbuso would take the theme and improvise.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s Kyle who\u2019s a very spiritual musician when he plays. His mother was the violinist for Abdullah Ibrahim and he would be sitting at the rehearsals listening to Abdullah Ibrahim play \u2026 as a little boy. You can hear it in his playing, but he learnt violin, so he\u2019s basically a self-taught pianist.<\/p>\n<p>I experiment a lot with the way I play the bass, manipulate the sound of the bass and the frequencies, I don\u2019t want to play bass in a conventional way.<\/p>\n<p><figure>             <iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"440\" height=\"260\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fJOCOFCkC74?wmode=transparent&amp;start=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Bassist Carlo Mombelli in concert with the band that played on his latest album.<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p>So basically here\u2019s a band of musicians who taught themselves. Kes is the only one who finished a degree actually.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How\u2019s this album different from previous albums?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I want to be sure that I am evolving as an artist and go through different phases in my career \u2013 just like Picasso, who had different periods \u2026 On this album there\u2019s maybe more improvisation, maybe the drumming is different, more painting.<\/p>\n<p>I spent time with my wife in the Swiss Alps, in a place in the mountains, composing music. I found a place with the most beautiful grand piano that they had taken up with a helicopter. I spent a week up there composing. There were just cows, each with a bell, a distant church and a cheese farm.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019d go for walks and I had a recorder with me \u2013 there were these hundreds of bells and every now and then I would also hear this church bell, and I recorded that. So what I did in the studio, I played that recording to the musicians who had it on their headphones and we just started playing.<\/p>\n<p>I named the first track \u201cThe Bells of Gitschenen\u201d \u2013 because that\u2019s the place we were.<\/p>\n<p><figure class=\"align-right \">             <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com\/files\/115141\/width237\/image-20160315-9246-1snurj8.jpg\"><figcaption>               <span class=\"caption\">Score for Meditations in my Back Yard.<\/span>               <span class=\"attribution\"><span class=\"source\">Christo Doherty<\/span><\/span>             <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p>The last tune \u201cMeditations in my Back Yard\u201d I gave to Kyle in the studio. He had never played it before. He looked at it and we said, \u201cokay, let\u2019s record it.\u201d Mbuso improvised it on the spot as we were playing the piece of music! First track, first take! That\u2019s after giving them the piece for the first time only ten minutes earlier! Really, it came out in quite a deep way.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The cover of the album is a painting by Norman Catherine \u2013 how did this come about?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><figure class=\"align-left \">             <img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com\/files\/115137\/width237\/image-20160315-9272-b1jfke.jpg\"><figcaption>               <span class=\"caption\">This is the third Mombelli album featuring a Norman Catherine painting.<\/span>                            <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p>I know Norman very well. This is the third cover he\u2019s done for me, it\u2019s called \u201cDream Walker\u201d. I\u2019ve got a lot of his work in my house \u2013 he\u2019s a good friend so he gives me a good deal [laughs].<\/p>\n<p>When you take music and you combine it with things you see visually \u2013 for me it goes right into the spirit. I\u2019ve spent many occasions crying when I\u2019ve heard a piece of music. Like when I heard Weather Report play for the first time \u2013 on vinyl. That\u2019s why I started playing bass when I heard Jaco [Pastorius] play with Weather Report \u2013 it just went into my spirit.<\/p>\n<p><figure>             <iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"440\" height=\"260\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/JXOnhzoC-i8?wmode=transparent&amp;start=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Bassist Jaco Pastorius was a major influence on Mombelli.<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p>I was affected by music the first time when I was eight years old. My mother took me to \u201cSwan Lake\u201d. There\u2019s a violin piece in the fourth movement \u2013 when I heard that I knew I was going to be a musician.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How do you juggle between being a jazz musician and an academic?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I am in an academic institution. I did a Master\u2019s and PhD many years after I started playing music \u2026 it is all nice in a way that it gives me self-worth, but I\u2019m still a musician. It [the degrees] also helps me get a better salary at the university.<\/p>\n<p>Most of my students don\u2019t even know that I have a doctorate \u2013 it doesn\u2019t make you a better artist; it doesn\u2019t make you a better person in a way.<\/p>\n<p>So at Wits University it is not about me having learnt how to teach, I teach my students from 35 years being a musician: through stories, through experience. I think a good teacher is someone who has a lot of experience, not someone who has gone to a college to learn how to teach.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Your shows get sold out and your records sell well, yet your music isn\u2019t easy listening by any means \u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There is an audience \u2026 when they come to a concert, they get an experience they don\u2019t get on a CD. I\u2019ve had bikers \u2013 Harley Davidson \u2013 types at my shows. And I think, \u201cwhat are these cats doing here?\u201d, and afterwards they\u2019re just taken aback by the music, because there is something about seeing a concert, seeing it happening in front of you and there is a big following for serious music.<\/p>\n<p><figure>             <iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"440\" height=\"260\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/VhFsZI2JhDE?wmode=transparent&amp;start=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><figcaption><span class=\"caption\">Bassist Carlo Mombelli and his band performing in Cape Town in 2014.<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p>There is one thing where music shops went completely wrong! Serious music fans buy CDs and vinyls. People who are just into the vibe, not serious music, they download.<\/p>\n<p>So what are music shops doing? They get rid of all their serious music \u2013 they say this stuff doesn\u2019t sell. They made a mistake because that\u2019s the stuff that actually sells, and they left all the pop stuff which doesn\u2019t sell because the kids don\u2019t buy CDs \u2013 they download music.<\/p>\n<p>I still buy CDs, I still buy vinyls, but I have to order them \u2026 if those shops had them, I would have bought it from them. They\u2019ve made a grave mistake. So all the shops have turned to videos and games, and now those shops are all closing anyway. So there is a market for serious music.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Am I right in saying there\u2019s a new wave of young South African jazz musicians coming through?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You\u2019re absolutely right. There\u2019s a new wave like we\u2019ve never experienced before. Every time I go and listen to jazz at [Johannesburg jazz club] the Orbit, there are some youngsters I have never seen or heard before.<\/p>\n<p>At a place like [Johannesburg music venue] Afrikan Freedom Station you can see a lot of these youngsters playing \u2013 honing their sound and developing in those small places for no money. It is small audiences they\u2019re playing for, but the people who go there are focused on the music in a way you don\u2019t find at these fancy clubs. There\u2019s an incredible wave of youngsters and each one has their own thing happening and each one is different.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So music in South Africa is not stagnating?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No, no! There\u2019s a massive wave of youngsters and really good ones coming through in South Africa.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"The Conversation\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/counter.theconversation.edu.au\/content\/56310\/count.gif\" width=\"1\" \/> <\/p>\n<p><em><span>Carlo Mombelli does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond the academic appointment above.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>\n<strong> Read more on:<\/strong> <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/theres-a-new-wave-of-jazz-sweeping-south-africa-56310\">The Conversation \u2013 Articles (AFRICA)<\/a><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>Read more on <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\" target=\"_blank\">The Conversation<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Join the fun:<\/strong> <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.myza.co.za\/add-your-event\/\">Add Your event<\/a> | <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mypr.co.za\/submit\">Submit a Press Release<\/a> | <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.myza.co.za\/directory\/\">Add your listing<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Carlo Mobelli on the bass Christo Doherty One of South Africa\u2019s foremost jazz musicians, Carlo Mombelli, has just released his 12th studio album, \u201cI Press My Spine to the Ground\u201d. 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